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Hillary: Go vote...I'll watch your kids

Posted Wednesday, January 2, 2008, at 9:34 AM

As I was perusing the morning headlines today I came across one that I thought was worth sharing.

I want to start out by saying that there's nowhere to find good humor quite like you can during an election and this is no exception.

With the Iowa Caucus tomorrow morning, the Democrat race is still up for grabs there and the candidates are doing everything in their power to drag their supporters to the polls, and I mean anything.

According to a story this morning, Hillary, or as I like to call her, "The H-Bomb," has taken an entirely new approach to get out the vote.

Her campaign has reportedly began hiring teenage babysitters and Iowa day-care centers to watch children so Clinton voting mothers can be sure to make it to the polls.

Nothing much to this, but I just had to pass it along.

Look for another blog once the Iowa caucus results are in. Any early predictions?

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I think Hillary will carry the majority. Does kind of sound like buying votes with childcare though I bet they all do similar things though. Where I grew up they just handed out free whiskey.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Wed, Jan 2, 2008, at 1:10 PM
Corey Noles' response:
Haha! I wonder how that would go over today?

Well, it certainly wouldn't get the "values" voters, would it?

I think the Republicans would be delighted if the "Big Bad Wolf" pulled out ahead for the Dems.

What a shock if she won the final vote, though!

-- Posted by goat lady on Wed, Jan 2, 2008, at 6:07 PM

To a certain extent I think that most men that vote where I am from still expect to get a free drink or two. I think it is just kind of a custom now. Election day is a big day.

Think you would really be shocked GL. I don't think that anything would shock me when it comes to polotics.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Wed, Jan 2, 2008, at 7:58 PM

A "free drink"! What an American tradition!

I just wish that we could trust our own eyes - that "what we see" is "what we'll get." There are so many hidden agendas!

-- Posted by goat lady on Thu, Jan 3, 2008, at 7:11 AM

Well,I hadn't heard this and I am impressed with Hillary,at least she saw a problem,found a solution, and then implemented that solution to the benefit of herself and her target audience.

She put some to work,free daycare to persons who needed it, with no assurance they would even vote for her,but the expectation is they will.

She has gone up considerably in my book,I see her thinking like a woman (& a mom).

I missed voting when the kids were smaller because of this very issue,and nobody ever helped me. This seems like a "hidden agenda" when-

a.)A woman thinks of it, it's self serving then. If it was John McCain,he would be praised for thinking outside the box,or being pro-active to a serious problem faced by potential voters!

b.)You personally do not need this help,then it's a blatant ploy to woo female voters with an "act".

c.)Your opponents wish they had thought of this first-curses!

Yes, I may sway from my pretty boy lawyer,John Edwards.

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Thu, Jan 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM

Heck, drinks in return for votes isn't surprising or shocking. Where I come from people vote for years after they're DEAD. Now, at first I found that to be a little shocking. Then I remembered just how much of a Yellow Dog Democrat my adopted "mimi" was and I wasn't the least bit surprised that she continued to vote posthumously.

I still can't make up my mind who I want, but I know some that I don't want. I still say I'd rather vote for Ru Paul than Ron Paul.

-- Posted by Ducky on Thu, Jan 3, 2008, at 5:06 PM

Angelina you took it for gtanted that it was single moms who needed child care so they could go vote (excuse me caucus) didn't you. Seems you forgot there are single dads too. Do you want to woo single moms only? Not sure how I feel about that, but it sure makes me go hummm.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Thu, Jan 3, 2008, at 9:41 PM

Sorry,I tried to remain gender neutral with persons,then became politically incorrect with the use of the word female.Oops.

I'm often politically incorrect,glad you aren't,fellow person.

My pretty boy lawyer came in second in a contest that Clinton (Male) lost in 1992,along with N.H.,yet still won the race. Maybe there's hope for my guy yet!

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Fri, Jan 4, 2008, at 9:07 AM

I have to admit, Angelina, your pretty boy lawyer is looking better and better - considering that Ru Paul isn't running.

I was a bit surprised to see Hillary's third place finish in Iowa. We'll see what the rest of the year brings. We're still 359+/- days from the actual election.

That may be enough time for me to make up my mind. Actually, I'll probably be soooooo sick of hearing and reading about politics by the election day that I'll write in "None of the Above."

-- Posted by Ducky on Fri, Jan 4, 2008, at 1:39 PM

You know I was messing with you AJ because it is so easy for all of us to automatically think the way you were. It is how we are programmed.

I was surprised a little to see Hillary finish so far back. I thought it would be a lot closer. A lot of things may change as we go into the other states. Iowa does not really reflect the feelings or beliefs of a lot of other states such as Florida or say Colorado. The same goes for Huckabee. This will be very interesting.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Fri, Jan 4, 2008, at 7:36 PM

New Hampshire is going to be interesting, isn't it? I doubt Huckabee will do well up there - especially if they get wind of that story about his son torturing and killing a dog...

Anybody heard that one?

-- Posted by goat lady on Sat, Jan 5, 2008, at 8:31 AM

I seen that but it was like a blip. Wonder why it wasn't covered more?

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Sat, Jan 5, 2008, at 8:44 AM

NO one more phony than your pretty boy lawyer and NO one more ruthless than the Clintons. Wouldn't it be refreshing for both of them to just go away.......

Truth is, out of all the candidates from both parties, we, the people, are left with mostly political CRAP.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Sat, Jan 5, 2008, at 11:29 PM

I,as a European American (stand strong Nicholas) have often felt that I should organize my own group (activists) to demean and ridicule government (U.N. governance)(media attached of course) for what it has become. However, the negative spotlight which "focused groups" (high-dollar-controllers of the universe) would then label me eccentric - I like that word - and I would never see daylight as I am accustomed to again. Oh well, I'm sure it's all for the best then. In the beginning, I'm positive I'd do "good" work; but somehow I would long forget my original mission and become dedicated to building MY financial and political empire. Of course, along with MY bigger goals that in order to fund MY ever-expanding organization comes the need for y-o-u (the people) to dig deeper and deeper into your pockets.

Conclusion: As in draw your own....

-- Posted by Grati Tude on Sat, Jan 5, 2008, at 11:59 PM

I have some trouble understanding you, Grati Tude. Are you saying that a man/woman can begin a political career for all the right, noble reasons - but, somewhere along the line, they get off track and become self-serving??

-- Posted by goat lady on Sun, Jan 6, 2008, at 7:36 AM

Still like my pretty boy lawyer,but I really thought each of the Dem's made a few good points.

I have pretty well tuned out all the republicans out,except McCain.

Huckabee was just too soft on felons as gov of Arkansas-remember Bill Clinton's teenage cousin Ashley Stevens was kidnapped and raped by serial rapist Wayne Dumond?

Dumond was convicted,but convinced the Arkansas Society of Republicans Who Hate All Things Clinton that was the only reason he was convicted-she was Bill's cousin.

That was good enough for Gov. Huckabee,as he met with the parole board without it being taped or recorded,so only those present and God can contradict Bro. Mike.

After Dumond's pardon, he sashayed over to Missouri,where he was suspected in more rapes and convicted of the rape-murder of Carol Shields (DNA conviction). I remember Huckabee's meeting with Ashley and her folks when she literally got up in Mike's face,an inch from his nose,and told him "This is how close I was to Wayne Dumond. I will never forget his face. Now I don't want you to ever forget my face."

Of course, now Bro. Mike denies all of this, well he didn't really read the appeal and bio of the career felon,blah blah blah. Just did what he was told? Not much on book learnin'.Relies on his "trusted advisors" for the fact checking, weapons of mass destruction-oops-wrong gov.,same cop out.

I think I would rather re-elect G.W. Bush than put the Huckster in as Pres.

How can you have such blind hatred of your fellow human that you do such a reckless act,that's what we already have-been there,seen it,done it, got the concert t-shirt folks.

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Sun, Jan 6, 2008, at 9:49 AM

Hate sure is blinding isn't it Angelina.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Sun, Jan 6, 2008, at 4:27 PM

AJ, have you ever looked at Clinton's pardon record? I am sure you have some rationale for all of his questionable decisions when handing out pardons to felons of ALL kinds. Just curious how a single one makes you not like a candidate so much, but seem to maintain a love affair with the white trash First Family from Arkansas?

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Sun, Jan 6, 2008, at 6:05 PM

Nope,because I am pretty sure I am not voting for ANY present or former governor of ANY state.

I never voted for Clinton either time,so that sort of shoots down the "love affair" portion of your comment. Since I never supported him, I feel no need to check all his pardons-it was Bill Clinton. 'Nuff said-if he runs again,fill me in,otherwise why would I even care?

Hillary may be many things,but I would hardly call her "white trash".Of course,you must have a different definition.Who said I was voting for her-I am UNDECIDED,but I like John Edwards so far,and some of her,and some of Obama,but no bumper stickers just yet!

ONE pardon, are you joking? In ten and 1/2 years as governor, Huckster pardoned or commuted sentences 1,033 times-about one every four days as governor.Compare that to Clinton,Frank White, and that lovely predecessor, Jim Guy Tucker,who in their total of 17 1/2 years they pardoned 507 persons! Don't even start me on his pardoning of Jim Guy Tucker because it would cost $1200 to let him serve his entire sentence!

Yes, Mike Huckabee stands out a little more in my mind than Bill Clinton,(although I did think Rolling Stones Keith Richards should be pardoned for a 1975 traffic offense,since I enjoy the Stones music-self serving on my part).

Current Arkansas Governor Mike Beebe has pardoned 40 as of the end of 2007.

Why does this ONE pardon really tick me off? Let us turn to the ancient history of the late 1990's.

Because of that crap show "A Current Affair" and the idiot Steve Dunleavy or however you spell it. He questioned whether little Ashley was making it all up for attention. Vicious,amoral jerks to treat rape victims like this.

The hatred was so intense of the Clinton's,I recall an article about "The Rape That Never Happened" and of course again,this little girl was NOT shielded,her name was smeared,she was a ***** who was asking for it,poor Wayne Dumond was an innocent Vietnam Veteran who had never been in trouble before, I guess except for killing some guy with a lead pipe,child molestation, and conviction for sexual assaults,etc. yep-he was a model citizen except for those few blips!

I could not believe he was pardoned,and I could not believe this little girl was dragged through the mud all over America. I do not find child molesters,serial killers,or rapists to be those that pardons were meant for. They have no warm and fuzzy place in my heart,and when I heard what Bro. Mike said to Ashley,basically calling her a liar,and just repeating what he heard on "Current Affair" as fact to HER,the rape victim, I was truly shocked.

I have a daughter the same age as Ashley Stevens,and it hurt my heart to think of my baby being treated this way,no one deserves this.I have mother's memory when it comes to Mike Huckabee, and this is why I will NEVER vote for him.

If he's your guy,then go for it. I have left straight ticket voting after I voted for GW Bush instead of Al Gore.

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Mon, Jan 7, 2008, at 12:14 PM

Thank goodness you chose right on your final straight ticket ballot. Good to leave them behind though.....have to vote for the best person, regardless of ideology. Too many yellow dog bed wetting dems and ultra manic limbaugh reps in this world and all they do is tear people apart and ruin US politics. I would love to see Wolf Blitzer and the rest of the talking heads just be gone.

Glad to hear you have a strong, well thought out opinion and NO love affair....Do check into the authenticity of John Edwards and also into Obama's ultra liberal voting record. Choices aren't in abundance this time around and we may just be stuck with someone unworthy of this seat.......regardless of the selection.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Mon, Jan 7, 2008, at 1:43 PM

All of them are saying the right things. Change everything. Health care for all, tuition assistance and get out of Iraq. These things seem to make everyone happy.

Sure, I can agree with those things. Good ideas, but tell me how you are going to do it. Do they just tell the Defense Department to bring everyone home. How do you propose to pay for the change? How do you propose to stop Al Qaeda. They don't care who the President is. It is our constitution they despise.

The cake might taste good, but the ingredients might be poisoinous. Tell me whats in it. Put the ingredients label on the package.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Tue, Jan 8, 2008, at 11:45 PM

That's why I'm still undecided. Look at the mess in Afghanistan. The Evil Empire-the Soviet Union was responsible for all the woes,and when they invaded poor little Afghanistan back a few decades ago and set up a puppet Afghan government,something had to be done!

Our tax dollars were used to train and arm the brave rebel forces against the Evil Empire,the brave Muhjadeen,and our buddy the Saudi Osama Bin Laden.Which did turn back the Soviets,then turned into the Taliban, and now use American weapons and training against American soldiers today.

What is worse,the old USSR or the present mess in the Middle East?

I don't believe you can stop Al-Qaeda because they are funded with oil money,and most people are unwilling to change their oil dependent ways.

One person riding in a gas guzzler,or an SUV on a sunny,dry day,people who turn their a/c or heat on high,refuse to make any energy changes.

A yellow ribbon is lovely,but it won't win a war or bring troops home.

Now, so many talking heads want to start it up with Iran,even though we already fought them and lost. I consider it a loss- our arming,financing,encouraging and sending advisors to our good buddy Sadam Hussein when he invaded Iran back in 1980,and we paid untold billions to him and fought that war for eight years.

What was the outcome-Iraq never gained an inch of ground,a million persons died,a million were wounded,and there were few left who loved our country in the Middle East up to the present day. I think everybody lost,including the American taxpayers,so why start something new when we have to borrow money from China to even pay for it?

"Those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it" is so true.

I agree with Truthy,before I vote in November, I want to have a plan,not a soundbite of idealism and a promise of "change".

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Wed, Jan 9, 2008, at 10:36 AM

Wow. I love this blog. So many ideas. I too am undecided. None of the candidates satisfy me. I agree with both Angelina and Truthy, more factual information, please. Don't just tell me what you think I want to hear.

-- Posted by Ducky on Thu, Jan 10, 2008, at 3:03 PM

I don't even know if I'm voting. I haven't in the past, b/c no one person fills my expectancy as president. Even though it's my civil duty to do so, I just can't decide. I know I have to see who outweighs the other's, whether I agree w/ them 100% or not. But I just can't. B/c, as was said before a couple times, none of them can tell me how they plan to put these wonderful ideas into play. I need healthcare, so that's a huge thing to me. And I can't find a job, so economy is big too. Gas prices on the other hand, not so much b/c they are just doing what they have always done, and are raising w/ the cost of living. And the war, that's something I don't have much of an opinion on. We aren't doing mass amounts of good over there, but things will get majorly bad if we pull out now. So I am neither for or against it. Who is gonna get my vote? Who knows. I agree w/ whoever said I'll prolly be too sick of hearing a/b it come November to vote for anyone. I'm already half way there.

-- Posted by mrsdolphin on Thu, Jan 10, 2008, at 7:02 PM

Don't wait around for any of these phonies to tell you sincere/honest details about their "plans". Their "plans" are plans on how to fool enough folks to get elected. Hillary is a calculated ruthless win at all cost politician who has 0 experience. Period. Barack Hussein Obama is getting a free pass from the media because he is unbelievably well spoken and refreshing to hear speak.....the incredibly liberal voting record and beliefs aren't a topic right now. The other side has McCain....respectable war hero, but a John Kerry flip flopper. Huckster, as he is referred to here, has flaws some of which have been pointed out here. Romney is slick, no slick Willy, but slick. Thompson is the most down to earth candidate but doesn't seem to be willing to run a campaign necessary in today's media circus world. Oh, forgot your Angelina's lawyer buddy. Talk to anyone in North Carolina and see how they feel about him. Unless they are a yeller dawg, I promise they will not talk too favorably.

This election is second rate.....anxious to see if anyone rises in the "looking presidential" category. Right now, it looks like we are going to be playing a couple junior varsity players on the varsity.

Angelina...your comments about the US's history are insane. Hope you had no relatives in any of those battles, including the one now that mine say we are winning and perservering in. Surge is working, one year anniversary was yesterday.....Not a single report from our fair and balanced media.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Fri, Jan 11, 2008, at 5:56 PM

Sorry if a truthful perspective on US covert involvement in the Iran-Iraq war offends you.

As for your flip comment on "having a relative" in the war-MY SON IS IN THIS FLIPPING WAR.Is that good enough for you?

I really hate Blind Melon,now.

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Fri, Jan 11, 2008, at 8:22 PM

33 Senators Voted Against English as America's Official Language June 6, 2007

On Wed, 6 June 2007 23:35:23 -0500, 'Colonel Harry Riley USA ret' wrote:


Your vote against an amendment to the Immigration Bill 1348, to make English America' s official language is astounding. On D-Day no less when we honor those that sacrificed in order to secure the bedrock character and principles of America .

I can only surmise your vote reflects a loyalty to illegal aliens.

I don't much care where you come from, what your religion is, whether you're black, white or some other color, male or female, democrat, republican or independent, but I do care when you're a United States Senator, representing citizens of America and vote against English as the official language of the United States

Your vote reflects betrayal, political surrender, violates your pledge of allegiance, dishonors historical principle, rejects patriotism, borders on traitorous action and, in my opinion, makes you unfit to serve as a United States Senator... impeachment, recall, or other

appropriate action is warrented.

Worse, 4 of you voting against English as America ''s official language are presidential candidates: Senator Biden, Senator Clinton, Senator Dodd, and Senator Obama.

Those 4 Senators vying to lead America but won't or don't have the courage to cast a vote in favor of English as America''s official language when 91% of American citizens want English officially designated as our language.

This is the second time in the last several months this list of Senators have disgraced themselves as political hacks... unworthy as Senators and certainly unqualifed to serve as President of the United States.

If America is as angry as I am, you will realize a back-lash so stunning it will literally rock you out of your panties... and preferably, totally out of the United States Senate.

The entire immigration bill is a farce... your action only confirms this really isn't about America ; it''s aboutself-serving politics...despicable at best.

'Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.' ~ anonymous

The following senators voted against making English the official language of America :

Akaka (D-HI)

Bayh (D-IN)

Biden (D-DE) Wants to be President?

Bingaman (D-NM)

Boxer (D-CA)

Cantwell (D-WA)

Clinton (D-NY) Wants to be President?

Dayton (D-MN)

Dodd (D-CT) Wants to be President?

Domenici (R-NM) Coward, protecting his Senate seat...

Durbin (D-IL)

Feingold (D-WI) Not unusual for him

Feinstein (D-CA)

Harkin (D-IA)

Inouye (D-HI)

Jeffords (I-VT)

Kennedy (D-MA)

Kerry (D-MA) Wanted to be President

Kohl (D-WI)

Lautenberg (D-NJ)

Leahy (D-VT)

Levin (D-MI)

Lieberman (D-CT) Disappointment here.....

Menendez (D-NJ)

Mikulski (D-MD)

Murray (D-WA)

Obama (D-IL) Wants to be President?

Reed (D-RI )

Reid (D-NV) Senate Majority Leader

Salazar (D-CO)

Sarbanes (D-MD)

Schumer (D-NY)

Stabenow (D-M)

'Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale, and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged.'

~ President Abraham Lincoln ' Amen '

-- Posted by native on Sat, Jan 12, 2008, at 8:49 AM

Easy, native you might blow a gasket. I think we should have an official language, but there may be some things in that bill that we don't really want. I don't know. I think we can get concerned over a lot of other things. What are they doing wasting their time on this anyway. How about wasting their time on steroid use in MLB. Give me a break, who cares? Get to work on solving the energy shortage, health care, our infrastructure with collapsing bridges, our education system and securing our borders. I didn't vote for anyone to go there to worry about an official language or investigate Major League Baseball. We have law enforcement officials to handle that.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Sat, Jan 12, 2008, at 9:28 AM

Angie....so your son thinks we are failing? Does he see anything positive being accomplished? All of my friends and relatives who have served or are serving go on and on about the progress and all of the media coverage which doesn't paint a complete or truthful picture.

Putting an end to the Cold War was a bad thing?

Just confused........

Blind Melon Rules. Shannon Hoon lives!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Sat, Jan 12, 2008, at 3:48 PM

My son is an active member of the U.S. Military.I do not speak for him,and I really don't appreciate your "so your son thinks" crack,if you had any sense you would know I am only talking for myself.Until I told you,in response to your other comment,you were not aware my child was in this war.

Although native obviously despises all Democrats,and I usually tune out anybody who hates all of any party,unless it's the Nazi Party or a sell-you-sexy-lingerie party, I do like their statement "Never argue with an idiot"...

You will never know the fear my husband and I have gone through every moment our baby is out of our sight,we are sick of this war as every other person and want our child back home.

I will not tolerate anymore comment about my child,any flip,snide comments from somebody who cannot possibly understand our life. This thread has really gone down and I'm just going to walk away Hoon,before you beat me down with your vast experience.

Write whatever pops into your head because I'm not reading it.In fact, I've yet to read any of your comments on any board that really are interesting,especially your legalize drugs one.Go for it,call me anything,cause when I post this, I won't read another thing you write.

You can insult any opinion I have,even me,but my baby is off limits.

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Sat, Jan 12, 2008, at 7:34 PM

Take it easy Angelina. Since I am retired military I think I can tell you. Your son serves his country because he wants to. He may not say it, but I will bet that is why he does it and if he is like me he understands that he does it for the people to be able to express their opinion no matter what. On the other hand if you don't respond you are failing to do what your son is protecting your right to do. Please respond, but stay calm, you will be better at it and for it.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Sat, Jan 12, 2008, at 8:33 PM

I only asked if your son thought there was progress being made in our War. My relatives and friends who have been or are there now think there is. I only have respect for your son and the job he is doing. I only have respect for you, your husband, and your family for the sacrifice you go through. I never pretended to know your life and I wouldn't pretend to know what it is like to have a son or daughter go to war. My comments were in response to yours insinuating we were losing another war. In my honest opinion, I feel this war is being won and progress is being made. I also feel your son and others defending our country have given all of us 7 years of safety with NO attacks on our home turf. Your son is nothing less than a hero. I don't wish to put you through any more negativity and didn't intend to in the first place. This was a good thread with some great opinion and it went from that to rather comical to in some way being offensive. In NO WAY was I insulting your son or you. I was questioning your thoughts on our military accomplishments and history.....In future years, we will look back on your son and his comrads as American Heroes serving the greatest nation on earth and making it a place of freedom and a place that spreads freedom to those who couldn't achieve it on their own. God Bless.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Mon, Jan 14, 2008, at 1:47 PM

Wow, thats pretty good hoon. I think. I have a son-inlaw there. He has never told me anything other than positive and has never complained. I do worry a lot about him though.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Mon, Jan 14, 2008, at 7:38 PM

Truth.....same goes to your son and you all as a family...Your son is a true hero. That word is overused these days. Hero of a game, hero of the playoffs.over used. Your son and jolie's son are true heroes in every sense of that word. And you all as families deserve so much credit also for all that you go through, most of which other Americans don't appreciate and even take for granted as we go about our daily lives. I hope jolie gets back on here and takes me at my word. This post started as some friendly political back and forth. I don't get on here to intentionally wreck someone's day.

I do like hearing your son's positive take on the war. I remember at the start when our country was united how popular it was to support this thing, and then when things hit their low point how easy and fun some seemed to have watching and hearing of our struggles. Now, hopefully we are making some headway and doing what we set out to do, spread freedom. I truly hope and pray your heroes come home safely and get to appreciate the glory that they deserve.

This started out as a post about Hillary and her quest to do anything to get votes. I am enjoying reading positive sentiments about our troops much more. Maybe we should start one that only has to do with that subject!

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Mon, Jan 14, 2008, at 10:08 PM

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