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Thoughts on Super Tuesday...

Posted Wednesday, February 6, 2008, at 10:02 AM

Well, the votes have been tallied and the poll workers are likely still sleeping it off, but we didn't have too many surprises.

Huckabee taking a few states kind of surprised me, but McCain is and was the clear Republican (?!) frontrunner. Love it or leave it.

The Democrat side is an entirely different ball game however.

Reports just released this morning show that Obama likely took around 20 MORE delegates than Clinton in yesterday's contests. That puts the two within about 70 delegates of each other and still with a long ways to go before we'll know who will be below the donkey on the ballot in November.

Recent polls have shown Obama making a very impressive push past Hillary both nationally and in most states. The majority of the Super Tuesday states polled the day before the election stayed very close to their poll results which is a win for the pollsters if for no one else.

My gut feeling all along has been that Hillary will wind up being the nominee, but after Super Tuesday I'm not so sure.

I'm always very skeptical of the polls and what they say, but this round they were pretty close.

How do you feel about Super Tuesday?

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I.B...I haven't as of yet made a decision on whom I would vote for come election time...because both of the prominent ones (Obama and McCain) seem scary to me. I don't rally after one party in particular, so that in no way will effect my decision. To me, voting is a very scary thing. These candidates are allowed to speak of whatever promises they please, but after being elected, don't neccesarily have to uphold them. I think that's the primary reason so many have refrained from voting in the last 20 years or so.

And to add to the fear factor, you have the unsurity of just not knowing...period. How do we teach first-time voters to get past this? God only knows.

-- Posted by mrsdolphin on Wed, Feb 20, 2008, at 7:37 AM

Tonight for the first time I listened to a speech by Barack Obama from Houston, Texas. Prior to this I had thought I had made up my mind and was positive that I would vote for neither John McCain or Hillary Clinton in the General election. After watching him speak I now must reconsider my prior opinion. Obama gave a very highly motivational speech, however I am afraid he is talking about a democracy as a tool to implement socialism. Everything he talked about giving to people or implementing required or requires an increase of tax.

I grew up in a very econimaclly depressed part of the United States in the Appalachina Mountains and I am from a poor family. I was so happy when I got a new pair of shoes or pants, usually once year. I will admit that I now have two pair of shoes, a black and a brown pair. If all of what Obama proposes is instituted I fear that I will have to give up one pair to someone else. I think that under Barack Obama I may only have a brown pair.

When I listen to him I find many things that I like, but when I really evaluate what he is saying I have fear.

Hillary and McCain may not look so bad after all.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Tue, Feb 19, 2008, at 11:01 PM

http://www.ourcampaigns.com and click user.

-- Posted by swift on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 4:06 PM

Wow! I'm glad I don't get on Topix! I agree with Charles Smith about the hating other folks. Which is why I like Huckabee. He's conservative but he brings a Christian perspective to his conservatism. That's basically the Prohibition Party way of dealing with issues. http://www.prohibitionists.org or http://www.ourcampaigns.com/UserDetail,h...

-- Posted by swift on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 4:04 PM

Topix is a site where anybody can say anything about anyone, and I mean anything.

Lies,half-truths,gossip,rumors and anything from anyone's imagination can be posted. After somebody say's something like"I.B.LeTruth wears his mother's army boots,and I hate him"Then 30 or more will post any crime,sin,alien abduction,late on child support,what his girlfriend who has an std knows that his wife whose having a baby by his cousin doesn't have a clue,how bad her old momma was and then let's talk about how his grandaddy was a horse thief... Then they get personal.

Think I'm exaggerating-hardly. I just don't like the cussing and calling out others while you hide behind a screen name.

Every little town like Bernie,Advance and Dexter has their own forum,plus there are national forums-they are a hair better but way too long for me.

What I do like about Topix is you can ask a question like,"Has anyone ate at that new place,or do you know a good roofer?" and you can get several viewpoints.You can start to read threads that seem okay,but quickly go nasty.If you read enough,you KNOW for a fact the same posters are here on the Statesman,some even mess up and use the same screen name.Flamers and cyberbullies try to take over any serious threads.

If you ever want to know why your neighbor got busted,or what happened to that little girl from grade school you had a crush on,somebody somewhere on Topix knows.You can see your hometown as it is today,every town is on there.

Topix is what it is,gossip rag for the common person.

I have dial-up and I can get Topix,so I'm not sure what's wrong there GL,you just aren't missing alot.

-- Posted by CharlesSmith01 on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 11:30 AM

What is the straight scoop on Topix? Is it a far left or right site?

I don't get mad. I was just kind of wondering about GL. I like to argue a little bit and I kind of like reading the other points of view. Sometimes I even change my mind because of what I read. It makes me think about it.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Mon, Feb 11, 2008, at 12:06 PM

IB, just be yourself and dont get mad because of a post or two.

GL, stay away from Topix.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Mon, Feb 11, 2008, at 11:32 AM

IB, just be yourself and dont get mad because of a post or two.

GL, stay away from Topix.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Mon, Feb 11, 2008, at 11:32 AM

Don't blame me because you are smart GL. I kind of figure I am the one learning a whole lot.

It is democracy and freedom isn't it. I guess if we lived in a lot of countries someone would block us out or come and take our compters or put us in jail when we were politically incorrect or made the wrong person mad.

Pretty neat.

Do you ever get mad at what you read on here?

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Sun, Feb 10, 2008, at 10:01 PM

I just take the mean comments with a grain of salt. That's Democracy in the works. The main thread of these blogs is, I think, rational and reasonable - thanks to some of our regulars like I.B. (whether liberal or conservative).

Since I have dial-up, I can't get on Topix to find out what all the hoopla's about.

-- Posted by goat lady on Sun, Feb 10, 2008, at 5:40 PM

I am not sure anything can be done with poverty,it's here to stay.

Didn't Jesus even say the poor will always be with us?

I like someone who can put some brakes on the MidEast crisis,safely bring troops home,and isn't so ignorant of other countries.

I also want someone who at least cares about others-I know many hate the existence of Social Security,but I think it is a good thing,and I hate to think of people without healthcare,and it will be hated by anyone who mentions all Americans have the right to medical care.

I have been reading some of these pretty nasty comments about your fellow human beings,whom you can see,by those professing to love God,whom you can't see.

I realize some people are just flamers,because they don't use their real names and they make controversial comments,because some of you I recognize from Topix. It would be nice if we could all play nicer,but that's impossible with some folks.

Just something to think about if you warm a pew tomorrow-if you hate these folks so bad,say a prayer for them. You are supposed to pray for your enemies. I have also noticed as the comments have gotten meaner,a lot of folks have quit commenting regularly,can't blame them.

-- Posted by CharlesSmith01 on Sat, Feb 9, 2008, at 3:18 PM

And by the way, I don't care if a candidate is black, white, male, or female so long as they are right on the social issues and believe in the traditional interpretation of the Bill of Rights.

-- Posted by swift on Sat, Feb 9, 2008, at 1:13 PM

Well, folks can say what they want to but the Clintons are only great to those who believe government is the answer to all our problems. In my opinion, we've gone down the road to socialism long enough. Ask yourself this question: Has the New Deal, Fair Deal, New Frontier, and Great Society social programs really done away with poverty?

Bottom line; Government is not the answer! That being said, there's not a dime's worth of difference between the way Republicans and Democrats run our country. I voted for Huckabee because he's straight on the social issues but he's not going to win the nomination, so I guess I'll go third party! Too bad my Prohibition Party candidate, Gene Amondson won't be on the Missouri ballot.

-- Posted by swift on Sat, Feb 9, 2008, at 1:10 PM

Great Americans....Bill and Hillary!

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Sat, Feb 9, 2008, at 10:08 AM

I might be part Democrat. In some things I am more liberal and others I am ultra conservative. For instance; I don't believe in the death penalty. If it there had never been a death penalty Jesus might still be alive. I also will never deny or vote for anyone who would deny the right to have an abortion to a fourteen year old girl who is the victim of incest. Those two things would appear to be liberal or Democratic ideas.

That being said I would never vote for a Clinton. I wouldn't let either one so much as baby sit my fourteen year old daughter. Come to think of it I wouldn't let them baby sit my fourteen year old son either. Would you?

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Fri, Feb 8, 2008, at 9:18 PM

Hillary-Obama win in '08 OR

Obama-Hillary win in '08.

Mark it down. Our country is in good hands.

People who can't get a job need our help. Illegals are just looking for another opportunity in the land of the free. We have billionaires over hear who could help pay for all of this. Hillary had health care solved in '93 until the media and the right wing morons bad mouthed her and hushed her ideas. Bill will be right there to advise a young Obama as well. When you think of it, we will get 3 in 1 with this ticket. Go Demmies.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Fri, Feb 8, 2008, at 8:58 PM

Come now, I.B. You - a Democratic? Hardly likely!

-- Posted by goat lady on Fri, Feb 8, 2008, at 5:07 PM

Ahh Ducky, don't worry be happy. You cast your ballott of your own free will and you don't have to wonder if you are going to be shot for voting for the wrong person.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Fri, Feb 8, 2008, at 1:32 PM

I'm just glad Super Tuesday is over and we'll get a bit of a break from the political phone calls until closer to the election. Frankly, I'd rather vote for Snoopy, as suggested by Angelina. None of the candidates appeal to me. I voted in the primary and I'll vote in the general election, but I won't be happy about it.

-- Posted by Ducky on Fri, Feb 8, 2008, at 12:04 PM

GL you are assuming that I am a Republican or vote Republican. That just might not be true. It could be I guess, but it might not be.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Fri, Feb 8, 2008, at 10:24 AM

Somebody somewhere cares about a candidate's religion,because I've got a spam mail smearing Obama,Mormon Romney,Baptists Huckster & Clinton,but not McCain or Ron Paul-hmm,could they be behind them-lol? The spam mail does call Obama a member of the Church of Christ,and to be honest, I didn't realize there were more than one-sorry.

I don't inquire into their religion,you can say you are ANYTHING,but it doesn't mean you are a decent person who deserves to breathe the free air of this country,much less lead this wonderful nation. I personally know,or know of, bad people in all the major religions,and remember the serial killer BTK was an outwardly deeply religious person,with an evil heart.

I have made my personal repulsion of Huckabee known,and although I think him a pathetic weak joke and poor excuse for a human being,I don't think even the Huckster is evil.

Of course,only God reads a man's true heart,so I could be wrong about him.

I really think the Republicans will be McCain-Huckster VP and the Dems are still open until convention.

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Fri, Feb 8, 2008, at 9:29 AM

As for the difference between the Church of Christ and the United Church of Christ, that Wikipedia article is too long for me to read this morning; I'll have to tackle it later. However, I'm sure that (as usual) someone will be happy to give us the negative-aspects-in-a-nutshell, as they do every other topic on these blogs.

-- Posted by goat lady on Fri, Feb 8, 2008, at 7:53 AM

Mmm...so your boy bowed out this morning!

-- Posted by goat lady on Fri, Feb 8, 2008, at 7:41 AM

I figured you would think that. I do admire John McCain and I am sure that he is a great man but there is something about him that doesn't seem to fit and Huckabee wasn't it either.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Thu, Feb 7, 2008, at 9:15 PM

Well, I.B., you're right: I guess I don't have you figured out! I had you pegged for a McCain supporter. Huckabee?

-- Posted by goat lady on Thu, Feb 7, 2008, at 8:16 PM

What is interesting about the media coverage of the primaries is how they differ on their coverage of demographics of each party. On the Democratic Party it's on race and gender. On the Republican Party, it's about conservatives and moderates. So apparently the media thinks that Democrats vote on the basis of race and gender and Republicans vote on the basis of whether they are conservative or moderate. The media generally puts conservatives into three classes- religious right or Evangelicals or social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, and national security conservatives.

-- Posted by swift on Thu, Feb 7, 2008, at 4:43 PM

I am really sorry here, but WHO CARES what religion a candidate is. JFK was Catholic and the nation had hissy fits that he would be beholding to the POPE, well THAT did not happen. The Constitution gives each of us the right to CHOOSE our religion, or to choose not to have any. SO? Why are we picking or not picking a president based on OUR IDEAS of what religion a person should be - in DIRECT CONFLICT with the Constitution.......

As for the next president, I will repeat, IF you want the govenment to RUN every thing that you think, do and say VOTE DEMOCRATIC. Big Brother will be watching, and reaching into your pockets so that folks that don't want to work can get more WELFARE.

(NOTE: citizen children of illegals get welfare, the illegal parents do not - check the laws.)

-- Posted by D.W.B. on Thu, Feb 7, 2008, at 4:39 PM

I voted for Huckabee because of his solid social conservatism especially on abortion. There's not a dime's worth of difference between McCain and the Socialist- oops! I mean- Democratic Party!

-- Posted by swift on Thu, Feb 7, 2008, at 4:37 PM

Barak Obama is NOT a member of the Church of Christ. He is a member of the UNITED Churches of Christ. They are in no way affiliated with the Church of Christ.

-- Posted by xdexterresident on Thu, Feb 7, 2008, at 4:19 PM

I hate politics. I'm just excited to see some diversity in our candidates. That people are starting to judge others based on character rather than appearances is so encouraging! I think it's a definitive sign that we really are moving toward tolerance. Yay America!

-- Posted by Youngest Child on Thu, Feb 7, 2008, at 2:58 PM

I bet you don't know GL. Make a guess and I will be honest with you and tell you if you are right or not. I will give you a hint, neither of the front runners got my vote.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Thu, Feb 7, 2008, at 11:20 AM

I don't vote until the actual election. I understand these primaries have importance, but it doesn't give me enough time to make up my mind, so I don't bother. I'm afraid I would make a mistake if I learned something dire a/b the candidate I voted for in the primaries. I agree w/ you both I.B. and Charles...it's our duty to vote, and our God given right...too bad the choices are awful.

-- Posted by mrsdolphin on Wed, Feb 6, 2008, at 9:44 PM

Yes,CS01,that is true,most people on welfare in America are white.

I voted for the person who I felt best about,since Snoopy was not on the ballot.

I am sure,that like every man since George Washington,she will make me mad,frustrate me,but at least she is someone I wanted at the time I marked the ballot,not another crazy old white man. If Obama wins the nomination,I'll vote for him,for the same reason.

I just couldn't stomach the Republicans this time,and I saw no real economic plan amongst all of them.

At least I voted.

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Wed, Feb 6, 2008, at 9:25 PM

Yes, I.B., I think we all know who you're going for.

-- Posted by goat lady on Wed, Feb 6, 2008, at 9:12 PM

The real bad thing is that it is pretty obvious that they are all bad and there is nothing we can do about it other than vote for the least evil as we see it. I am going to vote though so I will at least feel I have the right to complain and a whole lot of people have died to preserve that right.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Wed, Feb 6, 2008, at 8:40 PM

All I have to say a/b any of it is whoever, whether they be republican or democrat, is voted in is going to put a whole new meaning on freedom isn't free...even if they do put a stop to the war. I don't see that any one of them deserve the position. And I still think if a politician doesn't hold to their promises, we should be able to boot them out and vote someone else in.

-- Posted by mrsdolphin on Wed, Feb 6, 2008, at 5:21 PM

I don't pretend to know everything,but I see mainly white people at the AFDC office for Stoddard County.The majority of recepients in America are white,and many are displaced workers.AJ,if that is what you meant about "good jobs going to foreign countries",well that is the result.

Is that what you mean by social handout programs,shannonhoon,white people born here,living here for 300 years now on welfare?

We all hate too much,and nobody is a uniter,not a divider,no matter how delusional they and their staff are.

Pick the lesser of the two evils is all we can hope for anymore.

-- Posted by CharlesSmith01 on Wed, Feb 6, 2008, at 4:36 PM

Angie, sorry about your lack of equilibrium and the possibility of you falling off that box! lol! Illegal aliens aren't taking good jobs, they are soaking America's working folks and all of our social handout programs which we all pay for.

Good points on companies not receiving tax breaks for going overseas with business. The other stuff about taking away citizenship or making people move made ME dizzy.

Surely you can think of more than ONE good thing about our next President, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Wed, Feb 6, 2008, at 1:58 PM

It is probably not a good thing as you say about Hillary. Since if she does win the Presidential election all the bones will start rattling again. Do you really want to go through all that again? If she wins the Presidential election it will probably be by the electoral college only and she may not even receive over 50% of the popular vote. We need someone who can win with the popular vote and electoral college. At least that way the President will have the support of the majority of the people and all this bickering can stop or at least slow down.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Wed, Feb 6, 2008, at 1:57 PM

I thought about one good thing about Hillary,she has been trashed thoroughly for the last 16 years,her skeletons are out of the closet and on display somewhere in a Little Rock museum.

Poor Obama,I fear he is a victim of having a birth father who was a Muslim-turned-Atheist,and a stepfather who was a Muslim,plus his agnostic mother.Since any Muslims in your closet,has sadly become an okay bigotry, I fear that if he is the Democratic nominee,the half-truths,near-truths,and outright lies will do him in. I realize he is a member of the Church of Christ,but I know too many registered voters only believe what they CHOOSE to believe,no matter what the real FACTS are. I think McCain will just be a repeat of Bush,gung ho but without any real economic plan other than cut taxes,stop waste,blah,blah,blah.

I'd like to see something on immigration too-if you own an American company and you close your factories so you can enjoy gross profits off of Chinese slave labor,you lose your tax breaks,and you are taxed as a foreign company. I'd also like to see the Board who votes this in lose their American citizenship,and they can live where they move our jobs to,but that is too much to ask I guess. I am sick to death of hearing about how illegal aliens are taking our "good" jobs,when it is really our fellow citizens who are giving the good jobs away to foreign countries,and employing illegal aliens with law breaking schemes! Phew, I'm dizzy up here on my soapbox.

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Wed, Feb 6, 2008, at 11:33 AM

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