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Health reform and what it means to us

Posted Monday, March 22, 2010, at 12:41 PM

After last night's vote I decided it was way past time to post a blog and this seemed like a very good topic.

Since early last year I have had very mixed emotions in regard to any legislation that might come out for a whole slough of reasons.

First, the amount of misinformation being released on both sides of the argument really showed me that I wasn't going to trust anyone with my healthcare.

Second,I felt like it was far too politicized with what both parties wanted being ridiculous polar opposites that I felt weren't feasible.

It was definitely time for something to change, but what was million dollar question.

The original ideas of universal healthcare were simply too optimistic to be implemented. A program like that would come with major costs and sacrifices that, frankly, I'm not willing to make.

Now, with that being said, if the bill passed Sunday is actually what I'm understanding it to be, I think legislators might have found a good balance point.

One of the reasons I feel differently on this issue than many other political issues is because I was born with an adrenal disorder that makes it next to impossible for me to purchase health insurance.

It's really a simple disease, but because it's quite rare it scares insurance companies to death. In other words, the only option for me has been to find a job that offered it and couldn't turn me down.

While it's not the greatest coverage in the world, after years without any at all I'm thankful for what I have and I understand how frustrating this can be to people who fall into those holes.

The next issue that really hits home for me is the changes in Medicaid law. While I obviously don't use the program, this law will make it available to a family of four making up to $29,000 per year. What that means to me is that more people will be eligible to use a program they've been paying for for years.

I know that the majority of taxpayers won't be eligible, but it's something. The fact is, an average family of four with two children making under $29,000 can't afford most premiums and actually have a decent home and provide for their family.

If there's a good way to make that happen on far less than that, I sure haven't figured it out yet, but believe me I'm trying.

While there are many, many issues I still have with this bill, I have to say I'm glad to see "something." There's nothing I'd be 100 percent happy with. For instance, I am concerned about the rest of the 900+ page bill and what it might contain and the I absolutely detest the practice of buying votes with earmarks and favors, but the fact is that's the way everything is done in Washington.

The one part of this bill that I am the most upset about, though, deals with penalties to people who don't purchase insurance. I'm not sure how that part will play out yet, but I don't like it. As Gallagher said, it doesn't make sense for them to charge you more of what they know you don't have any of!

So far, the only thing I've found that seems to give a reasonably unbiased article about what this bill means to us is here. While MSNBC isn't known for being unbiased, this seems to lay some of this out there in a simple format. Read it and then share your thoughts, but please remember to keep this civil! Thanks everybody!

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Not seeing quite the same enthusiasm in the reporting that windows were shot out of 'pubes windows and horrible messages were left on conservatives machines this AM. Hmmmmmmmm.

Idiots on both sides will be and are always idiots when a big issue comes up.

Just like on here, liberals have trouble when it comes down to substance and ideas. They have to rely on emotion and a change in subject. Clyburn, a black racist, is claiming the tea partiers spat on him and others and used the N word 15 times. Video shows NO proof of it.

Yesterday, the Clinton News Network showed interview after interview of whiney liberals crying about phone messages and bricks. Nothing today after it is shown to be a two-sided problem.

Stupid people are out there and all who are in the public eye are subject to being confronted by the ignorance. It is NON-representative of either side as a whole.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Fri, Mar 26, 2010, at 11:45 AM

Boortz predicted today all who oppose this will be characterized as hate filled and even racist! And sure enough, the liberal pinheads are reporting on ALL the threats and each and every idiot standing out in opposition to the bill. This will continue in an attempt to discredit tea party participants, Constitutionalists, conservatives, and anyone else ****** off about the direction our country is decisively headed in.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Wed, Mar 24, 2010, at 10:28 PM

Socialisam Example USSR

-- Posted by mythought on Wed, Mar 24, 2010, at 8:10 AM

Several states are opposed to this bill and are voicing their opposition.


-- Posted by swift on Tue, Mar 23, 2010, at 4:12 PM

ABC explained a portion of the problem with Medicare this morning (Tuesday), comically called the "doughnut hole." After the explanation, an elderly lady said she could now visit her grandchildren in California with the money the new system was going to save her. I was amused that ABC failed to dig up one of the really poor elderly persons who would now be able to eat regular food between the two periods of costs for her medicine. If ABC cannot locate one of the REALLY poor, do they exist? (I know they do so spare yourselves the effort of enlightening me. I know you think I'm unfeeling so do not repeat yourselves. I know about the check I shall be receiving shortly from my government so do not bother telling me I am part of the problem. I plan to send the check to St. Jude's.) Hoon for President! Swift and Scott sound like good cabinet members.

-- Posted by geezerette on Tue, Mar 23, 2010, at 4:10 PM

Exactly, geezerite! Hoon has the facts to back his assertions. The problem is, folks like L2L donot love to learn by checking out those facts.

Anybody care to know what the approval rating is for Pelosi and Reid?

By the way, opposition to this bill was bipartisan. 34 Democrats voted with the Republicans against this bill. The bill itself was Democrat or partisan.

-- Posted by swift on Tue, Mar 23, 2010, at 3:04 PM

I agree 100% geezerette. I think it's pretty obvious that the people on this board that support this bill don't know how the private sector works or small business's. I know it's not always their fault but I wish they would research it a little bit and I think their view may change somewhat. Once again, it's a sad situation and I feel sorry for my kids and all the other ones that are going to have to foot the majority of this catastrophe.

-- Posted by BonScott on Tue, Mar 23, 2010, at 3:01 PM

Someone who can present statistics (and can prove them to be factual from different sources) cannot be called naive, misinformed and paranoid. Name calling??

-- Posted by geezerette on Tue, Mar 23, 2010, at 1:10 PM

Let me know how much your premium's go down. Also, if you know any small business owners let me know how they feel about getting hit with higher taxes and the penalties they face. Also let me know their plans for hiring and expanding. If you know of any investors or do invest, let me know your feelings on the 3.8% tax increase on unearned income coupled with the Bush Tax cuts being killed.

And how anything I typed has anything to do with a drug company is tough to figure out.

Anywway...you enjoy seeing our government grow and become more powerful than ever. I don't. We simply disagree and I happen to be in the majority on this one with a growing number of Americans.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Tue, Mar 23, 2010, at 10:22 AM

Shannonhoon's manifesto is exactly what is wrong with naive, misinformed, paranoid, folks who have been blind-sided by lobbyists for drug companies. Sadly, they are being used.

-- Posted by L2L on Tue, Mar 23, 2010, at 9:30 AM

This is NOT about quality of healthcare, controlling cost of healthcare, reducing the deficit or debt (which, if you believe an entitlement program THIS size WILL reduce the deficit and not add to the debt, you are one of the dumb masses drinking the idiot's koolaid). This is about power and control of more and more people. The hands are out, the nanny state is growing, and government is so much more powerful now. You and I HAVE to buy something even if we don't want it. Who controls all of this? The IRS? The IRS just grew in numbers so a tip of the hat to the community organizer for creating some jobs!

This was to be about lowering the COST of healthcare. This was to be about lowering the COST of average Joe and Jane's healthcare costs and this disaster of a bill does NOTHING to do that. Jimmy Loser can stay on his parent's healtcare til he is 26. I say get the hell out of the house when you graduate. Insurance is subsidized for low income folks...yippee!...as if free lunch, food stamps, free housing, and a check in the mailbox wasn't enough. Take some of my money and go buy some healthcare.

Check out Obama's former rants about a single payer system needing to be a series of steps, and how it could not be done all at once. His wet dream is to have government centrally control the industry. Single payer? What does that mean? It means the government pays everyone...doctors, insurance, hospitals, therapists, all expenses, all bills that go along with medicine in this country. You trust that?

Now think of this scenerio. Insurance companies in this country are now the enemy. They have been targeted and this law puts the clamps on them. While you celebrate 30 million getting healthcare (60% of which will pay NOTHING) YOUR PREMIUMS are NOT going DOWN. Mark that down as FACT. They are going to go UP. And you know what you will hear very soon? You will hear the Obamamorons and the Pelosipinheads saying, the insurance companies STiLL failed us. They still can't get it right. They still are evil and mean and greedy. So, you know what, we were right, government can do the job better. I think this will indeed happen and anyone opposed to it will be characterized as they are on here: as people who don't want healthcare reform which is far from correct.

Cory, your statement that somehow seeing 'something' done makes you proud and happy is typical. Seeing 'something' that does nothing to help costs whatsoever, that raises taxes starting yesterday, that penalizes small business under taxes on the cadillac insurance plans, that forces Americans to purchase something even if they don't want it, that gives yet another handout and makes it a right....not a privilege, a RIGHT to have healthcare is scary as hell to me.

Sick that the Consitution matters so little anymore. Sick that by feeling as I do I am characterized as a right wing nut when all I want is government to get the hell out of my life. Government is not the answer to every problem and in fact screws up everything it gets its hands on. In the 1960's, the people were told Medicaid was to cost 9 BILLION bucks by 1990. 1990 came and went and the cost of Medicaid in 1990 was over 150 BILLION dollars! The ole government was just off by a little. Name a government program run under budget, that doesn't grow every year, that doesn't give gross examples and proof of waste, fraud, abuse, and political fingerprints. You can't. It is not about hating Obama or a political party. It is about seeing our country change and lean towards a socialist way of thinking and away from rugged individualism and capitalism which it was founded on.

This is what Change looks like says the incredibly intelligent and underqualified community organizer. I hope he finds out what More Change looks like next November and even More Change in 2012.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Tue, Mar 23, 2010, at 8:36 AM

Socialist; one who advocates or practices socialism.

Socialism; 1.any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. 2a)a system of society or group living in which there is no private property. b)a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state. 3)a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.

There's your definition L2L, pretty scary isn't it.

-- Posted by BonScott on Mon, Mar 22, 2010, at 11:00 PM

Swift, I am curious. What exactly is a socialist?

-- Posted by L2L on Mon, Mar 22, 2010, at 10:34 PM

I just commented on the front page article that I would not rant on political issues for a while. Well Corey, I wish I would not have read your blog.

Most of you know how I feel, but I think one of the biggest things I disagree with is the fact that they let 10 or 15 million people dictate radical change for the other 280 million people. In the end this is going to cost billions of dollars and business's will have to close or will go bankrupt. There will be no way to keep up with supply and demand, meaning there won't be enough hospitals, doctors, ambulances, etc. to control the masses that will want their services.

In the end, they could have done this another way but they chose to ram it down our throats despite the fact that over 60% of Americans didn't want it. It's a sad situation and I feel sorry for my two little kids.

-- Posted by BonScott on Mon, Mar 22, 2010, at 8:18 PM

I have no fear because I already know what will happen so there is no reason to be afraid. Facts will come to light eventually--probably when it is too late for the upcoming generations. All the "I-told-you-so's" will not help them dig out of the hole in which our present Legislature has put them. I took note that the ones who are applauding the "great" (Count the times Pelosi used the word.) change are the ones who have a personal interest in the "free" health care. Good luck! If I were a doctor, I'd be looking to change professions. Hoon for President!

-- Posted by geezerette on Mon, Mar 22, 2010, at 4:55 PM

And just for information purposes, I don't work for the insurance industry. That is an accusation thrown at tea party protestors. So, just in case! I'm a blue collar worker at Tyson Foods and I know my American History and the Constitution. The Democratic Party is Socialistic to the core!!

-- Posted by swift on Mon, Mar 22, 2010, at 4:37 PM

I read and reread your blog and the comments by our liberal friends. This bill was foisted upon the American people through deception, lies, trickery, and bribery.

There is still language in the bill that calls for the funding of abortion. Those who actually believe an executive order by the most proabortion president will stand as law are naive at best. The abortion language is really not the main problem I have with this bill.

Aside from the above comment, the bill costs too much. Hoon has done a very good job showing us what those costs will be. There is no way a spending bill like this will actually cut the deficit. It will tax the American people and will drive healthcare costs up. The bill is socialistic and everybody knows that! It is also unconstitutional. Now, I know L2L and others will say that I'm paranoid and a fear monger. I'm neither. I'm being realistic. This comment is simplistic so I'm leaving some websites which I hope my liberal friends will at least check out.






-- Posted by swift on Mon, Mar 22, 2010, at 4:32 PM

I am thankful for people who see beyond their own shirtsleeves. Some parents work so many hours they seldom see their families, yet they cannot afford the "amenity" of insurance or necessary health care. I am proud to see new opportunities made available. My husband has been denied coverage for many years because he once went to the ER with chest pains. It turned out to be acid reflux, but insurance companies insist chest pains mean heart condition. He served this country in Vietnam, so has had VA care, or he would have had no care at all. I applaud the legislators, and our president, for taking a step forward.

-- Posted by GONENOW on Mon, Mar 22, 2010, at 3:49 PM

Thank you for your sensible editorial regarding the passage of health care reform last night. I just finished reading the MSNBA article which you referenced and I found it to be very informative. (by the way, most news outlets including this newspaper are not known for being unbiased.) I'm sure my comment (and your editorial) will be pounced upon by those who are filled with fear and paranoia but I'm certain you can take it or you wouldn't be in this business. For those, like you, who have a health issue, I see this passage as relief. For those, unlike you or me, who enjoy great wealth and don't have to worry about health cre, this will not be popular. Anyway, thanks for your courageous editorial.

-- Posted by L2L on Mon, Mar 22, 2010, at 1:40 PM

This is the first reply, it will be civil, Congress has been contemplating this since 1992.

-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Mon, Mar 22, 2010, at 1:32 PM

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