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More problems for Obama?

Posted Thursday, July 10, 2008, at 8:07 AM

Wake up fellow bloggers and turn on your boob tube! There's controversy a'brewin'!!

Yes, yes, I know - I usually ban politics from my blogs, but, honestly, this is just too good to pass up! It seems that the Reverend Jesse Jackson was caught making an unkind remark about Barack Obama, when he thought the microphones were off. I won't repeat all the content, since part of it made an off color remark about a part of Obama's anatomy. (oh, no! I didn't DO that! I'm serious: I didn't realize the pun until after I typed it. Should I leave it?? Am I over the line? What will the boss say?....Leave it...delete it? Ah, let's push the envelope and leave it!)

Wow! Do preachers really talk like that?? Reminds me of Rev. Wright's tirade from his pulpit. Is it really a tradition for black pastors to talk like that? Somehow, I doubt it.

Anyway, the part that I CAN tell you is that Rev. Jackson accused Obama of "talking down" to blacks. In particular, he seemed to indicate that Obama was lecturing about "responsibility" in the black community. That's "talking down"?? I thought it sounded pretty responsible, myself.

When someone is accused of "talking down" to a group, it often means that they're using too lofty a vocabulary. I'm not sure that Obama should be criticized for not using the vernacular of the streets, if that's the intended criticism. Or maybe it's just that Rev. Jackson doesn't like being lectured from the pulpit by a man he doesn't consider his religious equal.

I admit that I'm not a big fan of Rev. Jackson. I remember what he did to the town of Cairo in the 60's, when he encouraged the violence which caused two-thirds of the inhabitants to move out and leave vacant stores and houses behind to sit like ghosts in a ruined landscape. That's a nice legacy to leave behind...

So, just what do you think is going on here??


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Seems like this entire situation is off color. Jealous Jackson wishes he were da' man running. Will get the attention, apologize (already has), and then be standing behind Barrack Hussein on the campaign trail. Phony attention seeking preachers like JJ do speak and think like this.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 8:33 AM

Jackson used to speak about personal responsibility, but then he sold out to the Democratic Party back in the 80's. Now he's irrelevant and so are his comments.

It's good that BO is talking about personal responsibility. But if he wants to get anywhere, he'll have to start rhyming. Gotta keep it real so people know how you feel. Can't be talking down to a man whose color is brown.

Get 50 Cent on the phone...a legit speechwriting opportunity here.

-- Posted by layne staley on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 10:14 AM

Remember the topic we had about going to church and the like? Well...THIS IS WHY I DON'T GO lol.

Love the pun, MD...glad you kept it!

Jesse Jackson is just upset that it's not Stockton up there running is all.

This has got to be the absolute worst presidential campaign I've ever seen. Granted, it's definetely been interesting...but talk about being the laughing stock of the world...sheesh.

-- Posted by mrsdolphin on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 12:46 PM

Sorry ya'll...kids were fighting during my last post...I meant Sharpton, not Stockton. Chalk it up to having rowdy boys;-̃

-- Posted by mrsdolphin on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 2:56 PM

I asked a friend of mine (who is black) at work about that and he accused Jackson of being jealous also.

Well here's my take on this. Send the ireverends Jackson, Sharpton, and Farahklan to Iran on a diplomacy trip. But make the trip one way! They can't come back! They have good company there!

-- Posted by swift on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 3:21 PM

Dolphin...

Better get those terds lined out.

Swift....

Nice idea. Could they take Obama with them by chance?

Also, is your friend voting for Obama?

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 4:33 PM

Love the rhyming, hoon! What a poet! Must be the influence of all those years of listening to rock lyrics. Or not...

Maybe Obama isn't considered "black" enough. Years ago (the 80's, perhaps?), four of my students were the children of a wonderful, gentlemanly black preacher and his wife. They were very well-mannered. I heard that when the oldest daughter went off to college, she wasn't well-accepted by the other black students, because they said she "acted white." Good grief!

-- Posted by goat lady on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 4:50 PM

Good grief is right on. Praying for the day when color doesnt matter.

-- Posted by changedname on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 6:15 PM

Turds, hoon, T-U-R-D-S. And they lined themselves out.

-- Posted by mrsdolphin on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 6:41 PM

I'm with ya, dexterite and gl! Also, from what I have heard, and read thus far, Obama's support for faith based charities seems to have no condescending quality to it. I also agree that Jackson's just jealous, Hoon!

It was reported that later the same day as Rev. Jackson's first comment was made, he made another saying that his support for Obama's campaign was "wide, deep, and unequivocal" and that he "cherished this redemptive and historical moment." Sounds as if he was back-tracking from his prior statement(yeah, I'd be a little embarrased to show my true colors, too...no pun intended) so as not to lose the support of his followers...does he even still have any?

Sorry, did I spell embarrased wrong (embarrassed?)

Oh well.

-- Posted by huxgirl28 on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 8:19 PM

Oops, me, too - I looked back over the comments and realized that it was layne staley rhyming, not hoon. Oh, well, 6 of 1, half-dozen of the other...

I think this whole issue can do nothing but help Obama. Anyone that Jackson disapproves of can't be all bad...Even tho my sister-in-law continues to call him the anti-Christ...(Obama, not Jackson...She probably considers him the Devil..Jackson, not Obama...)

I wonder what they're saying on the Kennett blogs? I think I'll go check!

-- Posted by goat lady on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 9:35 PM

Oh, man, what a drag! There is absolutely NO controversy over there at all, and they don't have ANY political blogs goin' on right now! It's like a hoon scenario, where dolphin and I comment back and forth, agreeing with each other!

Their blogs are way too nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why bother??

-- Posted by goat lady on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 10:02 PM

Goat - thanks for giving me street credit on the rhymes:) Hoon is my brother from another mother so you're right about us being tight.

Our candidates are the result of a broken system. Anybody willing to spend two years campaigning for a job shouldn't be trusted with the position. Every campaign likes to throw out the word change and I agree if they are talking about changing the game. It needs an overhaul BIGTIME!

-- Posted by layne staley on Thu, Jul 10, 2008, at 10:58 PM

System too damaged to FIX. Change=what you want to hear so you will vote for me which will be more of the same crap, or T-U-R-D-S as Goat says.

Staley Rhymes, I Rock and there aren't 6 or half a dozen of either one of us.

Nice to see you are searching for mean controversy Goat....will try and oblige.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 8:23 AM

I have no doubt of that, hoon... And, even though goat P-E-L-L-E-T-S (alias "turds") are a common item around here on the goat farm, it was my dear blogger buddy dolphin who so obligingly provided you with the correct spelling of the word.

However, I have to admit that, when you apply the term to children, I also prefer "terds." Looks less...uh...objectionable...

If the system is too damaged to FIX, we have no choice but to go for a CHANGE!

-- Posted by goat lady on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 3:59 PM

ShannonHoon, yes my friend is for Obama all the way! Another friend who also happens to be black, said his pastor down in Malden has been telling his people not to vote for Obama. This is in the face of many African-American churches which are endorsing Obama.

There is a Church of God in Christ in Sikeston, reported in The Cross Road paper, periodical for "the African-American community in SE MO", to be getting an active campaign going for Obama.

-- Posted by swift on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 4:17 PM

Wow! It's great that pastors are using the pulpit for political purposes. We can thank the Republicans for that with the religious right movement in the 80's. What a mess!

-- Posted by layne staley on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM

I am not voting for a guy who is embarrassed by me.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 10:52 PM

Truth, clue me in on who is embarrassed by you.

-- Posted by BonScott on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 1:53 AM

I was wondering about that, too.

-- Posted by goat lady on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 6:46 AM

Me too?

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 9:24 AM

The "Rev" Jackson lost my respect several years ago when he confessed to cheating on his wife and having a "love child" with another woman. What a fine example to the black community. I tell you...if I were his wife I would whip up a very special cake...

-- Posted by letseatcake633 on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 1:25 PM

Obama, since I can't speak a foreign language.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 4:40 PM

Hey letseat633cakes: What kind of special cake are you talking about? Interesting.

Jackson is a piece of ****. Attention seeking, typical over hyped mouth for a cause that has done nothing but hurt its people.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 5:22 PM

Ummmm Whilewe'reatitlet'shaveascoopofvanillatoo:

If you have lost respect for every human who cheats and has a love child - I bet there are few you do respect... and I'm with you cake and all on that one.

I am sorry it took you that long to lose respect for that wind bag!

-- Posted by dimebag darrell on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM

Jesse ******* is a poverty pimp of the highest order and probably had a hand in the killing of MLK. He has taken MLK's dream and turned into a nightmare. When he speaks of Obama "talking down" to black people about responsibility, he is just trying to save his own "job" (whatever that is). Because if the black community that Jesse professes to be a "leader" of knew that they could live a better life because the racial thing died out over 30 years ago, he would no longer be able to make millions off them. I mean, who do you think pays his income? (Well, unfortunately, I'm probably paying for it too). And, who needs a leader anyway? I've been able to think for myself all my life. I'm not talking about professional and working-class black people, but the only thing that is really keeping other black people down is Jesse *******, Al "murderer" Sharpton, and Farrakhan (if you want to know how insane this man is, read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_I...

and this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_I...

And by the way, I am sick of hearing the term "African-American". What the hell does that mean anyway? If you and your descendants are from here, then you're an American. Period. Otherwise I would have to be a "European-American". Now how gay is that?

-- Posted by Jim Morrison on Sun, Jul 13, 2008, at 1:47 AM

Here's a great Q & A on the book "Shakedown" about Jesse *******:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...

-- Posted by Jim Morrison on Sun, Jul 13, 2008, at 2:11 AM

I was just thinking that whoever taught Jesse the word "unequivocally" needs to be horse-whipped. He uses that word in every speech or interview I have ever heard. I guess it makes him feel smarter.

-- Posted by Jim Morrison on Sun, Jul 13, 2008, at 2:16 AM

* Wow, startling and disturbing information, Morrison! Wikipedia is not your garden-variety encyclopedia...

* For the History of letseatcake and her unique recipes, go to Minnie O'Pausal's archives and check out her early postings from when the Statesman first started the blogs. Letseatcake was a very regular blogger-buddy back then.

-- Posted by goat lady on Sun, Jul 13, 2008, at 7:28 AM

I don't eat cake. Good stuff Jimmy, interesting, and disturbing.

I'm an axe grinder, pile driver

Mama says that I never never mind her

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 9:36 AM

Where in this world are you coming from Layne in your response. That is not true! I have never heard of ANY Fundamental Bible believing churches doing campaign rally's for ANY politician!! They would lose their tax exempt status! And don't give me the commie-lib hype that churches are getting into politics by standing up on moral issues such as abortion or homosexuality! But it's ok for liberal African-American Churches to endorse Socialistic Commie-lib Democratic Party Candidates! You liberals make my blood boil!! And I'm no Republican! I hate abortion because it's murder, and I hate homosexuality because the Bible calls it sin! But go ahead and vote for Obama, Layne!

-- Posted by swift on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 3:22 PM

Swift, hate is a powerful word.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 7:38 PM

Swift, your last post aroused my curiosity and inspired me to contact a person I know who is a religious scholar. He has a fanatical devotion to seeking the truth, he has a Ph.D. in religious studies, he has taught for years at a European university, and he has appeared on national television related to religious matters. I asked him:

"Have you come across any suggestion that Jesus engaged in homosexual activity?"

He answered:

"Oh yeah that's an old idea, there have been movies made on that theme. See Morton Smith's "Jesus the Magician", for a scholarly argument of that theory (by a scholar who was, by coincidence, gay himself)."

-- Posted by FJGuy on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 8:50 PM

Oh, my God! FJGuy! You DIDN'T!!Arrrrrrrrgggggggg!!!!

-- Posted by goat lady on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 9:05 PM

swift, I'll let you in on a little secret. staley will be the last person to vote for Obama, and he is not even close to being a liberal. He is however, very knowledgeable in politics and religion.

-- Posted by BonScott on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 10:08 PM

Bon...Lets not forget Staleys knowledge of homosexuality!!

-- Posted by Cliff Burton on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 11:01 PM

CB, I didn't want to let that cat out of the bag. Oh well.

-- Posted by BonScott on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 11:09 PM

Sounds like swift needs to relax a bit. Maybe he has a homosexual child and is ****** because the bible says he couldnt abort it???

-- Posted by Cliff Burton on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 11:16 PM
Madeline Dejournett's response:
Burton, I am as much against censorship as is humanly possible, but that kind of posting is uncalled for. You either curb yourself, or I'll delete all your comments - and you can take it to the Supreme Court.

Believe it.

Wow. I love the discussion and I'm all for free speech, but Burton? Really. Bad form. You need a time out in a closet.

-- Posted by Ducky on Tue, Jul 15, 2008, at 11:00 AM

I.B., Ok! Dislike instead of hate- I'm sorry! Got a bit carried away!

F.J., Some of the stuff you come up with is beyond me- lol!

Bon, If he's not liberal, he's certainly not conservative in the sense of the term that I or most folks define it.

I did leave a loophole in my post that I'm surprised layne didn't respond to. So just in case: It is true that some well known preachers have endorsed Republican candidates based on their stand on moral issues. But again, no churches to my knowledge have because of the fear of losing their tax exempt status. That being said, a preacher in our church said Sunday night that we conservative Christians really don't have a choice between Obama and McCain. I'm voting for the Constitution Party's candidate for president, Chuck Baldwin http://www.baldwin08.com

Thanks MD and Ducky, and I'll try to be a bit less confrontational myself!

-- Posted by swift on Tue, Jul 15, 2008, at 4:16 PM

MD is this the last political blog you're doing?

-- Posted by swift on Tue, Jul 15, 2008, at 4:17 PM
Madeline Dejournett's response:
Well, I guess I did answer your question, swift. I couldn't resist doing another one, but I find them depressing, so I believe I'll return to lighter, happier topics. I think I might sleep better at night...

OK OK I take it back. Too much "Alcohollica"!!

I am Cliff Burton and I approve this message.

-- Posted by Cliff Burton on Tue, Jul 15, 2008, at 5:34 PM
Madeline Dejournett's response:
Burton, (if that is, in fact, your real name) I appreciate that, thanks. Politics isn't my strong suit....and I was beginning to think I was in over my head.

swift,

Thank you for proving yourself wrong regarding my point.

To clarify, I was making reference to the Moral Majority of the 1980's, which loosely evolved into the Christian Coalition during the 1990's. These groups of holy rollers threw lots of cash and influence that had an impact on elections. Some would attest it gave the Republicans the congressional majority in 1994.

And the point remains that pastors should not be talking politics while on the pulpit no matter what political affiliation. And don't show up to the polls if you don't choose one of the two major candidates.

-- Posted by layne staley on Tue, Jul 15, 2008, at 9:03 PM

I think there's little doubt that the Christian Coalition DID give the election to the Republicans. And I believe that the Religious Right continues to work in their favor. I think that I've mentioned before - a friend of mine said the reason he voted Republican in the last two elections was that GW mentioned God by name. He's now very disappointed.

-- Posted by goat lady on Tue, Jul 15, 2008, at 9:29 PM

goat Tell your friend to vote Obama. Oh and by the way tell him not to make more money then he did last year and for Gods sake(stole that from GW) dont sell any thing he will have a capitol gains tax on.

-- Posted by Cliff Burton on Wed, Jul 16, 2008, at 1:06 AM

I think he'll be all right...doesn't have more than $100,000 in any one bank, so doesn't have to worry about getting 50 cents on the dollar for everything over $100,000 - like some folks I saw on TV yesterday.

I was at one of those banks up north yesterday, and they were not having a good time. Mad customers on the phone, mad customers coming in the door... They looked a little stressed out.

Republicans will land on their feet.

-- Posted by goat lady on Wed, Jul 16, 2008, at 6:31 AM

Maddie laid down the law on Clifford. I love it. Got to obey the rules you axe master.

Goat is sounding more ridiculous with every carefree sentence about how much taxes will go UP if Osama Obama is elected. With the top 10% of money earners in this nation paying nearly 80% of the tax bill......nearly 80% of the entire taxes in the US.... Obama has said he feels that should be near 90%. NO one on here is in that money making cateogory. I was heading there until my big mistake in New Orleans. But how is this fair? And why is ANY rich man or woman NOT going to invest overseas instead of here where they will b taxed to death? The US, a short time ago was one of the least taxed nations in the world, now we are #2. Goat and other Bush haters vote for Obama and we will be #1. We're #1!!!!! Yeah. Democrats will land on their ***.

Get it? Donkey. ***!!!!!!!!! Not even a cuss word!

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Wed, Jul 16, 2008, at 8:01 AM

Layne, In all due respect not all Moral Majority and Christian Coalition folks are "holy rollers" (and that is an offensive term, by the way!). As far as traditional moral values go, Christians hve always been involved in politics! In the 1860's, the Free methodist Church (the church where I have roots on both sides of my family) began as a protest against modernism, renting pews, and a lack of opposition to slavery in the Methodist Episcopal Church. It was said back in those days that the Free Methodist Church controlled the Republican Party of Michigan. Most conservative Bible believing Christians have been Republican or Prohibitionist. History proves that the Democratic Party has always been the party of a more secular minded majority who really didn't care to much for moral absolutes. You can all the way back to Andrew Jackson and his removing native Americans from their lands and forcing them to march the trail of tears to the days of slavery to opposition to Prohibition to now. Sorry, but it's true. Interestingly, Democratic Senator Robert Byrd is a former klansman and most if not all southern segregationists were Democrats opposed to Civil Rights. Black have been hoodwinked into voting Democratic!

By the way, I'm voting third party for president, Layne because I just can't vote for moderate McCain.

-- Posted by swift on Wed, Jul 16, 2008, at 4:02 PM

Man my spelling is atrocious! My grammar teacher grandmother would eat my lunch!! She's probably looking down right now saying, "that kid never would listen to me!" Aint that something?!

-- Posted by swift on Wed, Jul 16, 2008, at 4:07 PM

Where did I say taxes would go up under Obama? Copy and paste.

-- Posted by goat lady on Wed, Jul 16, 2008, at 10:14 PM

Goat...don't tell HOON what to do. You know better. No copying and pasting....you insinuated that taxes would go up and you friend and Republicans would land on their feet and be alright.

My baby likes my Model T and I'm parkin' it tonight.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Thu, Jul 17, 2008, at 12:21 PM

I'm still having trouble deciding which of the two less than acceptable choices will receive my vote. I can't remember an election where there was less of a choice.

Ah, for the days LBJ ran against Barry Goldwater. You may not have liked either one of them but at least there was enough of a difference between the candidates to give you a choice. Now days they all look/sound alike. Yes, I know I've opened a door to all the headbangers who will jump on the obvious race differences. I'm talking about truely substantive differences. Deep down, I just don't see that much difference between a Republican and a Democrat. They're all in favor of a great big state. (Notice the small "s" meaning the union as a whole rather than the capital "S" which refers to one state of the union - or Superman.

-- Posted by Ducky on Thu, Jul 17, 2008, at 12:34 PM

Taxes

Abortion

The War...although Obama doesn't know what the hell he believes and is changing daily depending on who he talks to and what polls well.

Role of government solving your problems with handouts.

Character

Wives....not happy hearing anyone say they were proud of their country for the first time in their adult life when she is 43 years old.

I am agreeing that neither party has done the country a favor.....but I think there is a clear difference and one choice scares me, race having little to do with that.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Thu, Jul 17, 2008, at 2:28 PM

Not trying to get off the subject but Layne Stanley, are you any relation to the bluegrass singer, Ralph Stanley? I love bluegrass!

-- Posted by swift on Thu, Jul 17, 2008, at 2:54 PM

Ducky, you are right. Real Democrat Dennis Kucinich vs. real Republican Ron Paul would have been a genuine contest in the spirit of 1964. Instead we get two dyed in the wool Corporatists: Bush III (aka McCain) v. Bush Lite (aka Obama), and We The People are left in the dust.

-- Posted by FJGuy on Thu, Jul 17, 2008, at 5:22 PM

Staley swift. Layne Staley. I love grass too!!

-- Posted by Cliff Burton on Thu, Jul 17, 2008, at 8:07 PM

We The People did cast our vote for our preference. Imagine that, it worked.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Thu, Jul 17, 2008, at 9:55 PM

swift - I do appreciate your comments up there, but no need to apologize! We get these two yahoos to pick from b/c the system sucks. I don't think I'm related to the bluegrass staley unless my daddy didn't tell me something. And I roll and I'm holier thou...just ask Cliff Burton.

Hoon for president. Ducky for vice.

-- Posted by layne staley on Thu, Jul 17, 2008, at 11:24 PM

Hey Swift,

Check out the great Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson. He is black and tells about countless black churches who's reverands preach out AGAINST America. These uneducated preachers believe in Jesse ******* and the other worthless so-called leaders. They preach hatred of America and white people. By the way, Jesse Lee Peterson is BLACK. And, he hates what Jesse *******, Al "murderer" Sharpton and others are doing.

Quit being the "politically correct" pansies that you are and stand up!!

I am the Lizard King…I can do anything!!

-- Posted by Jim Morrison on Fri, Jul 18, 2008, at 12:32 AM

Well, this only proves there IS reverse racism. Peterson is probably much like other predominately black preachers that somehow recieve no mention by the mainstream media. By the way, some posts back, you said you were tired of the term, "African-American". Awhile back a black conservative columnist expressed his dislike for what he called the hyphenated American You are so correct on this! If hyphens should be used, I'm English-German-Dutch-Scotch-Irish-Welsh/European-American. I mean, that's just stupid. For crying out loud, let's get rid of the hyphen, and forgive me for using it later! I like your post!

-- Posted by swift on Fri, Jul 18, 2008, at 3:40 PM

Staley, forgive me for not reading your last name right! Man, I not only can't spell, I can't even read! lol! And, no, I wasn't home-schooled! I can say that last part because we homeschooled our two kids.

-- Posted by swift on Fri, Jul 18, 2008, at 3:42 PM

Swift, if you are English-German-Dutch-Scotch-Irish-Welsh/European-American, let's get together a drink some beer and smoke cigars. With that heritage, you have to be fun.

-- Posted by BonScott on Fri, Jul 18, 2008, at 3:46 PM

Sorry can't do that, Bon! I mean the beer and cigar thing! lol! Burton, I don't do grass either! lol1

-- Posted by swift on Sat, Jul 19, 2008, at 9:41 AM

Obama is on Dexter Topix! Check it out!

-- Posted by swift on Sat, Jul 19, 2008, at 9:41 AM

Goat Lady for governor!

-- Posted by swift on Sat, Jul 19, 2008, at 9:42 AM

FootJoyBoy: Bush the III? Watch CNN and MSNBC much? Obama Bush Lite? You have NO credibility. You are a liberal bedwetting yellow puppy dawg. Ruff Ruff.

-- Posted by shannonhoon on Sat, Jul 19, 2008, at 7:59 PM

To counter recent false and misleading attack ads by John McCain on Barack Obama's tax proposals, here is the gist of Obama's tax plan for America.

Obama would reverse the Bush tax policy, which heavily favors the mega-rich. He would lower taxes for the poor and middle class families (below $150,000), increase taxes for the rich, those earning upwards of $250,000 a year, and simplify it so most Americans could file in five minutes.

He would eliminate all taxes on seniors making less than $50,000 and they would not have to file.

He would give 150 million working Americans up to a $500 tax credit.

To help fix the Social Security System, he would apply a tax of 2-4% on all incomes above $250,000.

It's clear from his proposals that Barack Obama is not beholden to the wealthy and powerful, the corporations or lobbyists. He is for the average American.

On the other hand, John McCain would make the Bush tax cuts for the rich permanent. On August 16th, McCain defined the rich as those making more than $5 million a year and those making less as middle class. This elitist notion places him way out of the mainstream. Of course being married to a multi-millionaire beer heiress will do that to you.

Whose tax plan is the best for you and the best for America?

Sources: www.FactCheck.org

-- Posted by cliffcleland on Mon, Aug 25, 2008, at 3:59 PM


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Madeline (Giles) DeJournett is the Advance writer for the North Stoddard Countian. A retired high school English/history teacher, she spent 32 years teaching in 5 schools in Missouri and Alaska. These days, she lives quietly with a menagerie of wild and domestic animals on 52 secluded acres in the remote Tillman hills south of Advance. She graduated from Dexter High School in 1960 and Southeast Missouri State in 1964. She can be contacted at advancensc@sbcglobal.net or by phone at 573-722-5322.