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Posted Thursday, November 1, 2007, at 10:49 AM
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Well, now that we have all of that out of our systems, it's time to get back to the news.

And what perfect timing. I am celebrating today because a Maryland jury awarded the father of a fallen Marine nearly $11 million in damages against the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan.

For those few of you who don't know anything about this group, they love to picket the funerals of fallen soldiers carrying signs that range in messages like they are happy the soldier is dead and God hates fags â€* etc., etc.

I am so totally for the idea of free speech. My job is based upon the first amendment right and I believe that everyone should get to have their say. After all, it is a free country, isn't it?

However, this group of people -- and you will never hear me refer to them as a church congregation -- take things too far.

Do they have the right to disagree with homosexuality and war and everything else they drone on about? Absolutely.

Do they have the right to stand at the funeral of a fallen soldier and spout their "beliefs" and wave them around on a sign. No way. Not to my line of thinking.

The group claims that funerals are a public event. I personally don't think so. I think that a private individual pays for a funeral and burial, therefore, it isn't a public event.

And besides that, where does human decency say stop? Why would you want to destroy a family that is already grieving from a stunning loss? What kind of person does that make you?

What are your thoughts on this group or the outcome of this lawsuit? I for one couldn't be happier and say good job to the group of Maryland jurors. Even if the father never collects a penny, as I imagine he won't, at least he has been somewhat vindicated by someone for what he had to endure at the funeral of his son!


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The lady doth protest too much,methinks.

I guess if I was the member of a secretive coven that espoused vile hatred of only one sin (There are a multitude of vile sins to choose from),and did everything outrageous to draw attention to my sects hatred of that one sin,linked every known catastrophe in history,from the fall of man in the Garden of Eden up to ANYONE dying from ANYTHING today to that particular sin,wouldn't want the world to know their real secret.

How do these people pay for their compound,their church outings(oops) to desecrate fellow humans most horrific sorrows of burying their children and loved ones?

Pretty sure their most personal demon is the one they struggle to keep in the closet at home-reeks of self-loathing to me!

I hope they take tips from the Brown & Goldman families on how to hound those who owe you money.(Right up to the proverbial gates of Hell).

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Thu, Nov 1, 2007, at 11:23 AM

Hooray to jurors! When I first heard this case, I was appaled! If they wanted to picket the war and the soldiers of the war, why didn't they make a trip over to the new democracy of Iraq and protest? That would have been a better chosen destination...and who's to say any of them would have made it back? I know that's not nice...but neither is standing at an "American Hero's" (as they SO don't like for them to be called) funeral protesting something that, in my opinion, has nothing to do w/ that soldier! Thank God for this being settled in court though, b/c I think that assures that these people will HAVE to pay it back!

-- Posted by mrsdolphin on Thu, Nov 1, 2007, at 12:56 PM

The family may never see a dime of the courts award, but fact that the group from Kansas lost is worth the battle. But with the LIBERAL courts system that is prevelant in our SOCIALIST society, the decision will probably be overturned. The WACKOS always seem to win now that the LIBERALS have removed GOD from our Democracy and turned the US into their SOCIALISTIC world.

-- Posted by D.W.B. on Thu, Nov 1, 2007, at 1:43 PM

I do not condone the ideals, actions, or message of the WBC in any way, shape, or form, but if they were standing on a public sidewalk and doing nothing but singing songs, shouting, and carrying signs, then these individuals are exercising their supposedly "inalienable" rights to free speech and peaceable assembly, while doing doing no more harm than offending people. This decision is another victory for those individuals possessing no respect for these ideals so dear to our forefathers and that believe one person's exercising of these rights should end at another person's tender heart.

-- Posted by yarnmurphy on Thu, Nov 1, 2007, at 5:12 PM

I am not sure that the right to free speech has no limits. If you think it does try to walk in to an airport with a sign that reads I have a bomb.

These people and everyone else should be celebrating and honoring our military personnel for protecting our constitution and their freedoms, not condeming them and causing severe mental anguish for their families.

Veterans Day is coming soon. What will you do to honor veterans on their day. Instead of condemning them to hell, let us start a petition or drive to establish Veterans Day as a State Holiday.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Thu, Nov 1, 2007, at 9:33 PM

Walking into an airport with a sign claiming a bomb or walking into a crowded room and yelling "fire" are indeed not protected speech because they can potentially cause real harm to the surrounding public. The Westboro Baptist Church congregation have only been offending people, and pose no real threat to anyone or anything. Again, I do not support this badgering at military funerals from a moral standpoint, but to deny people the legal right to do so opens the door to broad denials of free speech across the board just because someone is offended, and that is why this is a terrible decision on the part of the jury.

-- Posted by yarnmurphy on Fri, Nov 2, 2007, at 12:45 AM

The anger behind their comments is nearly a threat in itself. Okay, so they're holding a sign that says "I have a bomb, but I won't use it unless you really make me mad..." I believe these people are going beyond the right of freedom of speech, especially when they feel worthy of attending funerals of fallen soldiers and discriminating against their families and their honor. C'mon folks, this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. These soldiers have worked hard (even lost their lives) to earn us these rights!

-- Posted by Amanda on Fri, Nov 2, 2007, at 9:55 AM

to Yarn-this is a civil suit, and was handled as such.

You make a good point,perhaps they too have pals at the ACLU that will defend them,as they did the Nazi's who marched on Skokie,IL a few years ago.

I feel Sacha has an excellent point,a funeral is PRIVATE,because if you go inside a funeral home,you can be escorted right out if you are unwanted by the family.

A ballgame is public,but if you act a fool,you can also be ejected,although you paid for a seat.

I really think our forefathers could never dreamed a group would wish to mock and desecrate a soldier's funeral.

Freedom has to have some limits as IB LeTruth pointed out,or people will abuse freedom foolishly.

A civil suit was the truly appropriate way to get justice, I feel in this particular case.

-- Posted by AngelinaJolie on Fri, Nov 2, 2007, at 12:51 PM

Let me state this again: provided the group was on public property (a sidewalk near the funeral home perhaps?) and not on property owned by the funeral home itself, they have committed no crime. These are people standing in a public space expressing their opinions. "Feelings" have no place in law. A civil case this is indeed, but also an abuse of our court system.

You would deny these protesters the rights that the fallen soldier fought for? That is a double standard indeed.

-- Posted by yarnmurphy on Fri, Nov 2, 2007, at 1:39 PM

I am not sure that soldiers fight for the right to inflict mental anguish. It might be that this is a tyrany that they fight against and for the individual not to have to endure such treatment. A little common sense will tell you that this family was harmed as if you had beat them with a stick.

-- Posted by I.B. Le Truth on Fri, Nov 2, 2007, at 10:01 PM


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